Sauro: "I think new ways of design need the computer because new languages need new ways of expressing ideas. It's impossible to keep doing it the same way. Technology is not bad for design."

Andrea: "It's important not to use the computer during the first phase when conceiving an idea. You sketch first, discuss, then you take it to the computer later. We are too concentrated on "how" and not enough on "why" or "what". What's the aim?"