"The scholars traveled, a lot, even in 1200. So, what we see as local, many times it's a transplant. You know, like when you take rabbits to Australia. So the problem is about grafting. What happens when you graft something on something else? Will it be fruitful? Or, will it die? So to me, what is interesting, even about Italian design (not necessarily the industrial situation in Italy anymore), is that the first wave of Italian design was [done] by Italian designers. ... What is interesting about Italian design in a furniture sense is that you have a mixture between artisan quality, and [an] industrial [quality] in a good mixture, and people appreciate that. But, [the brain does] not necessarily have to be Italian [now]. You know, lately it is not so much this [way] anymore."