"We [always] need to be contemporary in our projects. I don't believe in shape, personally, never. I don't believe that the shape is the sign, but I think that the combination of different values and competence and assets creates at the end the product; that of course is a physical product and of course becomes the shape. This, in some way, for Munari was the approach towards Danese. Right now I believe that when you are a designer you need to be several things: You need to have a social approach, an anthropological approach, a technical approach, and you need a vision. Without any vision you can't, in my opinion, do anything."