Don't Cloud SFU Data

November 03, 2011

Storing information in "the cloud" is becoming more compelling, but great care is required to ensure the cloud is used by SFU faculty and staff only when appropriate.  We must ensure we comply with the provisions of the BC Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy Act (FIPPA).

In general, using the cloud or "Software-as-a-Service" (SaaS) systems is legal only if SFU can guarantee that personal information in the data remains in Canada.  This is not true for many SaaS systems (Apple's iCloud, Amazon Web Services including EC2 and S3, ElasticHosts, IBM SmartCloud, Rackspace Cloud, ...), free email and collaboration services (Google, Microsoft, Yahoo, AOL, ...), and various document-storage and backup systems (Dropbox, Windows Live, ASUS WebStorage, FilesAnywhere, IDrive, Syncplicity, and many others).

All systems implemented or controlled by SFU IT Services comply with FIPPA, and should be used by all faculty and staff.

An assumption

As CIO, I have to assume that all email accounts, all electronic calendars, and many SFU documents ("business records") contain personal information subject to FIPPA.  Here are some consequences.

Consequences

  • Do:  Use SFU Connect for all SFU business, including email, calendars, and shared briefcases of documents.
    • Do Not:  Forward your SFU email to a cloud email account, such as those of Google or Microsoft.
  • Do:  Access SFU Connect from all your personal devices, whether desktop or laptop computers, tablets or iPads, smart phones or iPhones.
    • Do Not:  Synchronize your devices through cloud services such as Apple's iCloud, now used by default by iTunes (both PC and Mac), iPhones, iPads, and iPod touch devices.
  • Do:  Share documents collaboratively through services provided by SFU.  Examples include WebCT, protected web sites, Sakai or wiki spaces, WebDAV or sftp sites, and SFU Connect "Briefcases".  (Briefcases allow you to create shared folders of documents that can be uploaded and downloaded from any Connect client.  New versions of Zimbra, the software of SFU Connect, are expected to provide much improved briefcase functionality similar to Dropbox.)
    • Do Not:  Synchronize documents containing personal information through Dropbox or similar mechanisms.
    • Do Not:  Backup a device containing SFU information to any cloud service storing the information outside Canada.

Why are there no cloud services in Canada?

There are a few, but not many.  (One example of a survey SaaS company is FluidSurveys, which guarantees to store all data in Canada.)  One obvious reason is that the Canadian market is too small to convince the large industry players to bother with creating and maintaining isolated systems in Canada.  Some Canadian cloud providers exist and more are emerging, but most are not free.  As we note opportunities, we continue to evaluate the business cases for Canadian cloud computing, but still rely mainly on systems housed and maintained at SFU.

On the provincial and national fronts, BCNET (our high-speed research network consortium), CANARIE (the national high-speed research network), and CUCCIO (the Canadian University Council of Chief Information Officers) continue our efforts to develop Canadian cloud capacity appropriate for higher education.

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Anonymous
Anonymous November 15, 2011 2:10 PM
Discussed by the IT Strategies committee on 2011-11-10; cleared for wider circulation, with modifications 2011-11-15.
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Anonymous
Anonymous November 15, 2011 4:03 PM
If we want to discourage users to forward SFU emails to a cloud account, then we should provide easy to follow instructions on how to setup their SFU account on their smartphones and desktop email clients. AND post those instructions at a prominent location (ie. within SFU Connect and besides the "forward all emails" setting.)

For iPhone users, we might want to post a configuration profile for setting up SFU Connect on their phone. With the config profile, it's only a few touches to get Mail, Calendar and Address Book setup on an iOS device.

The only way for users for follow the guideline is to make it easy for users to make it work.
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Anonymous
Anonymous November 15, 2011 4:36 PM
The SFU Connect documentation site (found at www.sfu.ca/email, also launched when the "Help" button is clicked in SFU Connect) contains instructions on mobile device and desktop client setup. Here's a direct link to them: http://www.sfu.ca/itservices/sfuconnect/getstarted/accessmethods.html
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Anonymous
Anonymous December 7, 2011 1:48 PM
I have found this documentation, however there is no option at this time for Android. The entire purpose of my personal use of the cloud is to access e-mails to my sfu account while in the field doing research related work. I need to access these e-mails in real time, as they often concern my schedule for the day.

I can go to SFU connect through the internet connection on my phone, but it is so slow to respond (taking up to 15 minutes to read a single e-mail, let alone sending one - and yes it is an SFU connect fault, not a fault with my wireless connectionas no other site takes nearly as long to load) that the entire purpose is defeated.

I find it frustrating that there are options available for all smart phone types except android. I will stop forwarding my e-mails to Gmail in light of these legal issues, but something needs to be put in place for android users.
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Jay Black
Jay Black December 9, 2011 9:24 AM
I will arrange for Android documentation to be added to the page, although IT Services has very limited ability to provide support for Android devices. The Zimbra documentation at http://wiki.zimbra.com/wiki/Zimbra_Mobile_Installation_and_Setup_for_Android says that you configure a Zimbra account just like a Microsoft Exchange account. If you have difficulties, use the Help facility on the IT Services web page, and we'll provide some suggestions if we can.
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Anonymous
Anonymous November 15, 2011 4:56 PM
In terms of actually using the Briefcase as a way of storing documents:
- for the most part, it's useful. It does feel like an extra step to have to go through the web interface to access everything.

Has there been consideration of direct connection for on-campus machines so that the briefcase would function more like a shared server file folder?

For mobile and so forth, briefcase is a relatively good way to go, but hopefully the improvements alluded to above come sooner than later so as to make the experience more user-friendly.

Lastly, using the Connect system is exceptionally difficult given the low quota (5GB) allocated by default. While IT Services can increase this with good reason, many staff don't know it is possible. You can fill 5 GB in only a few months, just with email and attachments. Using the Briefcase diligently would put a lot of strain on this (I'd prefer this route, but we need more realistic quotas if we are to store documents in this way).



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Anonymous
Anonymous November 17, 2011 12:18 PM
Lan Admins can increase user quotas in 5Gb increments via the Connect 'My SFU' tab.....they will see a 'increase user quota' option.
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Ian Forsyth
Ian Forsyth December 1, 2011 4:21 PM
I think part of the longer term solution related to the data storage quota lies in finding practical ways and means to enable records creators to systematically manage how they organize, retain and dispose of the SFU electronic business records that we create and receive. Not all records need to be kept indefinitely because many/most have only short-term value. If we can find pragmatic solutions that record keepers would use to know what records to keep and how, we could work towards a future when records of enduring value are kept (a minority) and the remainder are destroyed. This would help manage the need for increased digital storage and its related hard and soft costs (those in addition to the cost of storage).
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Jay Black
Jay Black December 9, 2011 10:13 AM
It is possible to access both your Briefcase and Notebook documents directly as network storage, at least on my Mac. Use "Connect to Server", and the URL of the form https://connect.sfu.ca/dav/<userid>/Briefcase. I don't have a Windows machine handy, but will try to get that information and have it posted.
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Anonymous
Anonymous November 15, 2011 5:10 PM
Many of us participate in collaborative projects that include many non-SFU participants and rely heavily on services like Google Docs, Dropbox, Doodle, etc. Do the shared documents and other content that is generated as part of this activity fall within the scope of "SFU documents"?
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Ian Forsyth
Ian Forsyth December 1, 2011 5:16 PM
Generally speaking, when the collaborative activity is strictly related to the research, teaching (excluding personal information about students) and outside service activities of a faculty member, the records that are created and received belong to the individual and not the University. Therefore, they would not fall within the scope of "SFU documents." In this situation, one might consider whether the records documenting, for example, a collaborative research project, contain personal information about human subjects or confidential information about third party businesses. Then a question to ask oneself: is it appropriate or permitted (in terms of the research ethics approval received) to store that information in the cloud? Other considerations might include whether, according to the service provider's terms of use, you loose control of the information, you forfeit copyright ownership or grant a non-exclusive license to copy and use the information, and what, if any, guarantee is given that your information will be preserved if the service provider is sold or goes out of business.
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Anonymous
Anonymous November 15, 2011 6:00 PM
Many years ago, I tried using SFU Webmail. I gave up because SPAM filtering was non-existent and forward all my email to Gmail. I looked at my SFU Connect account and over half of my messages are still SPAM. These are automatically filtered out when the email is forwarded to Gmail.

SO.... if you want me to use SFU Connect, you need to improve SPAM filtering so that I'm not wasting my days deleting junk.

I also tried to "replicate" my Gmail experience without much success. For example, there doesn't appear to be simple way to "archive" messages from my in-box to multiple folders. For example, in Gmail, I simply add several labels to a message and then archive it so that it doesn't appear in my active inbox.



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Anonymous
Anonymous November 17, 2011 12:26 PM
No one user experience fits all users. If you get any email with student or employee or research subject personal information sent to your SFU account, by forwarding it to Gmail you are violating BC privacy laws. The ONLY way around this is to have informed consent from the each of the people affected, in writing.

I think that after reflection SFU as an entity will be forced to break email forwarding for any faculty and staff Connect accounts that are forwarded to external commercial email addresses.

In case you are wondering, I do not work for ITS

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Jay Black
Jay Black December 9, 2011 10:17 AM
SFU does spam filtering at scale, using dedicated devices called Barracuda spam filters. We see 60-80% of all incoming email discarded outright. On a recent day, for example, 430,000 messages were discarded by SFU's server-side spam filter. Some 212,000 messages were deemed "clean" and delivered to people's SFU Connect Inboxes. Another 8,000 messages were tagged as suspicious and delivered to people's Junk folders in SFU Connect.

The Barracuda spam filter tends to take a few days to catch new types of spam. New patterns will appear in people's Inboxes for a little while, then they tend to disappear as the Barracuda's filtering rules catch up.
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Anonymous
Anonymous November 16, 2011 6:05 AM
Looks like well worth wider circulation, but can we first add detailed help on how users can set up viable alternatives to clouding?
Which leads to a question from a non-techie: With iPhone and iPad apparently using iCloud, what other way IS there to update and sync these devices without exposing any SFU info they contain?
For example, I have for years used "Documents to Go" to store volumes of SFU documents that would overwhelm Briefcase. And that would be re-clouded every time I sync my devices? (At least once a week.) Is that now not recommended? And isn't it too late to fix?


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Anonymous
Anonymous November 16, 2011 2:42 PM
The performance isn't amazing, but both iOS and Mac OS X support accessing your SFUconnect through Exchange. It works fine, push emails and all.
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Jay BlackJay Black
Jay Black December 9, 2011 10:19 AM
If you use iTunes on a Mac or PC to sync all the devices, ensuring you uncheck the button for use of iCloud, then the information is sync'd only on your PC.
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Anonymous
Anonymous November 16, 2011 9:39 AM
I'm curious what your perspective would be on whether or not instructors should be using third-party, cloud-based tools as classroom response systems (e.g. Top Hat Monacle or PollEverywhere). Individual instructors and departments are experimenting with these tools and tend to require SFU students to register with an SFU email account. Many use these tools to assess students' participation. Similarly, many instructors are experimenting with social media (e.g. Twitter and Facebook) to offer opportunities for interaction in their course. Where is the boundary, on your view and under FIPPA, between sharing personal information and engaging in public, educational discourse with students?
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Anonymous
Anonymous November 17, 2011 12:31 PM
if the students register knowing that they are using a service based outside of Canada, then I think they are giving 'informed consent', although there may need to be information given to them explicitly about the BC privacy act.

What would the instructor do if a student refused?

Can SFU websurvey be used for this purpose?
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Ian Forsyth
Ian Forsyth December 2, 2011 3:27 PM
Generally speaking, using many (maybe even most) of the readily available third party cloud based and social media tools for an instructional purpose would contravene the protection of privacy requirements under B.C.s law because personal information is stored and accessed outside Canada. For example, I was asked recently about PollEverywhere and advised that it could be used only in a very prescribed way, which included giving students prior notice and telling them their participation is strictly voluntary. Unfortunately, the law, as currently framed, makes no exception for an educational purpose. The only way to get an exception is through a Ministerial Order, which is an option under discussion.

In the meantime, Vancouver Island University developed, with support from BC Campus, a Privacy Guideline for Faculty Using 3rd Party Web Technology (Social Media) in Public Post-Secondary Courses. It can be downloaded from the BC Campus website. I would advise using the process it describes rather than make students use such tools as a course requirement. I dont know that the latter option, which relies on giving students informed notice and getting their implied consent would withstand scrutiny in this particular type of situation. Unfortunately, there are no immediate, simple, quick and easy fixes.
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Anonymous
Anonymous November 16, 2011 10:32 AM
Three questions:
-What constitutes personal data? A scientific paper I'm working on? Photos from a group meeting? Music? etc.
-How do you propose we transfer moderately large files to external parties? Say it's 100Mb. Dropbox is excellent for this and I haven't seen any SFU service that could replace it.
-How do you propose we share moderately large files within a lab or group, across multiple platforms (Mac, PC, Linux, iOS, Android)? Zimbra briefcase does not cut it.

I'm sure you know that if you want compliance, you need to offer real alternatives.
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Anonymous
Anonymous November 16, 2011 11:50 AM
I feel the pain! BC Campus has a page that tackles the question and lists policies for some B.C. institutions. http://fippa.bccampus.ca/ -- Good summary of conference findings.
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Anonymous
Anonymous November 16, 2011 12:00 PM
Comment posted by Lynda Williams, Learning Technology Analyst, SFU who needs to figure out how NOT to be anonymous. :-)
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Jay Black
Jay Black December 2, 2011 8:42 AM
We fixed the anonymity issue ... it was a CQ setting that had apparently come unset.
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Ian Forsyth
Ian Forsyth December 2, 2011 3:29 PM
Under B.C.s privacy law, personal information is defined broadly to mean recorded information about an identifiable individual other than contact information (i.e., information to enable an individual at a place of business to be contacted). Examples of personal data include the individual's name, address or telephone number; race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religious or political beliefs or associations; age, sex, sexual orientation, marital status or family status; photograph; an identifying number, symbol or other particular assigned to the individual; fingerprints, blood type or inheritable characteristics; information about the individual's health care history, including a physical or mental disability; information about the individual's educational, financial, criminal or employment history; anyone else's opinions about the individual; and the individual's personal views or opinions.
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Anonymous
Anonymous November 16, 2011 11:58 AM
I have heard, from an SFU faculty member, that https://www.toofast.ca/ is Canada-friendly. TooFast is a free assessment summary tool (survey). TooFast is developed by a consortium of three Canadian post secondaries. There might be other things of this sort out there that it would be useful for us to share with each other as we come across them -- in addition to working on getting in-house solutions that work better.

I've recently discovered the mobile interface for SFUconnect for my iphone and it's pretty good. Trying to use any connect services without switching to the mobile interface is agony, though. :-)

My compromise with Evernote is to use local-only notebooks for internal, non-public SFU data. Catch is one has to copy and paste, not forward via e-mail. But at least my interface for notes is consistent on my laptop across the sensitive and non-sensitive materials. Anything I think I might need to look up away from my desk I'm putting in SFU Connect's document feature but am finding it time consuming so being selective.

Lynda Williams, Learning Technology Analyst, SFU.
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Aydin Mirzaee
Aydin Mirzaee November 17, 2011 8:01 AM
Part of the reason that I think there aren't more Canadian Cloud Services is that there aren't widely publicized equivalents of Amazon EC2 and similar in Canada. At FluidSurveys, we had to largely build our own software infrastructure to make a lot of things possible that would've otherwise been a lot easier had we gone with Amazon or Google App Engine. With that said, iWeb and some other companies are starting to offer some services in this area - as the existence of some of these services increases, more companies will start to provide services on servers hosted in Canada.
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Anonymous
Anonymous November 17, 2011 11:27 AM
If we're expected to use our SFU email account for SFU business, then
it would seem that SFU should give us decent email service. IMO the zimbra
interface is terrible, spam filtering is somewhere between weak and nonexistent,
and service is spotty.
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Anonymous
Anonymous November 17, 2011 12:35 PM
You can use locally installed client software with Connect....Thunderbird, Outlook etc.

Not liking Zimbra is not a convincing argument for violating BC laws
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Anonymous
Anonymous November 17, 2011 2:10 PM
That's true enough, but it doesn't address the fact that there is no real spam filter nor spam-learning software. And I would think that the argument goes in the other direction: Yes, I should not violate BC laws, but the university should then provide reasonable email service. Last, thunderbird isn't going to help if I can't connect to the SFU server.
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Brian Corrie
Brian Corrie November 24, 2011 3:14 PM
Actually, my understanding is that IT Services does not support EMail clients other than the web interface.

Until IT Services supports using clients like Thunderbird and Outlook for accessing SFU Mail saying that you can use other clients isn't a convincing argument either.
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Anonymous
Anonymous November 28, 2011 10:28 AM
Connect supports IMAP and Secure POP connections so you can use the client software of your choice.....unless your choice is so old as to not support those protocols.

I really dont see the problem here. The Zimbra web interface is pretty good, you can use any other client software. If you need support for the client software presumably you make the case for that with your local desktop support folks.
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Anonymous
Anonymous November 17, 2011 5:47 PM
Again SFU administration creating rules to stifle innovation and efficiency at SFU.

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Anonymous
Anonymous November 18, 2011 10:32 AM
SFU didn't create FIPPA, that's BC law. The penalties/ramifications of violating it are far more important than "innovation" and "efficiency". Perhaps you missed the above-mentioned link: http://fippa.bccampus.ca/

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Anonymous
Anonymous November 18, 2011 10:39 AM
FIPPA = BC provincial LAW.

Not SFU administration.

The fact that the administration is disseminating information to help others be aware of the issue is quite another (positive) thing.

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Anonymous
Anonymous November 18, 2011 10:46 AM
http://www.oipc.bc.ca/legislation/FIPPA/Freedom_of_Information_and_Protection_of_Privacy_Act(April%202010).htm#section30.1

This is the actual piece of legislation.
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Dale
Dale November 17, 2011 8:57 PM
Maybe SFU should consider hosting something for themselves then. Maybe something along the lines of OwnCloud would work, though I'm not sure how ready it is for prime time yet.
And hey, storage is cheap, so why not do some of it locally?
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Oliver Schulte
Oliver Schulte November 19, 2011 10:59 PM
The University of Alberta uses Google mail exclusively for their email. That's right, they don't do email themselves, they let Google do it. See http://www.vpit.ualberta.ca/email/ . If our users need the cloud, why don't we follow the U of A example rather than letting privacy laws get in the way of getting work done?

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Anonymous
Anonymous November 28, 2011 10:17 AM
BC and Alberta have different privacy laws. BC's act specifically prohibits public bodies from storing personal information outside of Canada. As employees of a public bidy that applies to us. Newfoundland has a similar law, the rest of the provinces don't make any geographic distinctions.

The only way around this is for the people affected to give consent. For instance, if all students in a course agreed that their emails could be stored in Gmail servers then the instructor could use a gmail account.
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Ian Forsyth
Ian Forsyth December 2, 2011 3:41 PM
Email is the preferred and predominant way in which employees and employers today conduct business. Frequently, email messages and their attachments are the only record of their activities, actions and decisions. This would include recruiting, hiring and admission decisions about named applicants; peer review discussions frankly critiquing and evaluating a colleagues performance; salary merit, tenure and promotion recommendations and decisions; personal references written about employees and students; investigations of alleged inappropriate activity; requests for various types of leave of absence; etc. If that very sensitive personal information is about oneself and it is being stored in the Cloud using an email service outside Canada, do we still believe that B.C.s privacy law is standing in the way of getting work done?
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Bob
Bob November 21, 2011 11:30 AM
Here is a "DropBox" Type of solution that SFU can use once the product is "Gold" We can host this type of service if we have funding etc.

While at the VMware conference this year, VMware announced a new product they are working on.

http://blogs.vmware.com/euc/2011/08/vmworld-2011-tech-peview-vmware-project-octopus.html
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Anonymous
Anonymous December 2, 2011 9:48 AM
http://blogs.vmware.com/euc/2011/08/vmworld-2011-tech-peview-vmware-project-octopus.html
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Jay Black
Jay Black December 9, 2011 10:24 AM
IT Services is well aware of the forthcoming "Octopus" solution, and it appears to offer valuable services that we could host at SFU or elsewhere in Canada. We'll likely experiment with the beta version when it becomes available, and will come to some conclusion based on a combination of technical and financial factors.
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Alan Zisman
Alan Zisman November 25, 2011 6:02 PM
Where your data actually resides can be difficult to know. There's a local company - Bits Republic Technologies (http://www.bitsrepublic.com/) whose offices are actually on the SFU campus - that offers 'cloud storage'. Sounds like a Canadian solution, right? Well, they don't actually host the data... they contract with Amazon - so the servers are in the US.
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Ian Forsyth
Ian Forsyth December 2, 2011 3:22 PM
I thought it would be helpful to provide some general information and observations about the legislated privacy rules under which SFU must operate. The following 9 points offer context for some of the comments posted here about Jays draft message:

1) B.C.'s privacy law applies to publicly funded bodies including SFU.

2) One purpose of the law is to protect personal privacy by preventing the unauthorized collection, use or disclosure of personal information by public bodies.

3) The law applies to all records in the custody or under the control of SFU with limited exceptions. For example, it does not apply to a record containing teaching materials or research information of: (i) a faculty member of a post-secondary educational body, (ii) a teaching assistant or research assistant employed at a post-secondary educational body, or (iii) other persons teaching or carrying out research at a post-secondary educational body.

4) The protection of privacy requirements and restrictions established by law apply to (a) the employees, officers and directors of SFU, and (b) in the case of a service provider hired by SFU, all employees and associates of the service provider.

5) SFU must by law protect personal information in its custody or under its control by making reasonable security arrangements against such risks as unauthorized access, collection, use, disclosure or disposal. One way we do this is by communicating about our legislated privacy obligations and educating the university community about privacy issues that arise related to our use of information technology. The CIOs proposed message to the SFU community will help us achieve our duty to protect personal information by preventing its unauthorized disclosure, which is in keeping with the spirit, intent and letter of the law.

6) Protection includes the requirement that personal information must be stored and accessed only in Canada. B.C. is the only jurisdiction in Canada with this legislated requirement.

7) A SFU employee, officer or director or a service provider who has access, whether authorized or unauthorized, to personal information in the custody or control of SFU, must not disclose that information except as authorized under the privacy law.

8) SFU may disclose personal information in its custody or under its control only as permitted under the privacy law. The situations when we are authorized to disclose personal information inside and outside Canada are prescribed in very limited and specific terms. That permission does not include using an alternate email service on the grounds that SFU Connect is imperfect or for reasons of personal convenience or preference. SFU Connect may not be perfect but it offers a very important advantage over other email services it allows SFU employees to communicate using a tool that also enables them to comply with their legal responsibility to store and access personal information only in Canada.

9) A person who contravenes the privacy law by way of unauthorized disclosure commits an offence. A person who commits an offence is liable: (a) in the case of an individual to a fine of up to $2000 and (b) in the case of SFU, to a fine of up to $500,000. This is quite apart from the harm a breach of privacy would do to SFUs reputation as a trusted public custodian of personal information belonging to tens of thousands of individuals including students, employees and alumni.

I dont mean the information above to sound heavy-handed. I offer it here in order that we better know and understand the legislated environment in which we operate and the potential consequences for our employer and us. Whether we like or dislike some of the laws current privacy provisions, these are the rules of law under which we live and abide as individual and corporate citizens.
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Ian Forsyth
Ian Forsyth December 2, 2011 4:47 PM
I think this is a timely message about an important issue affecting a broad cross-section of the University. It is relevant, in particular, because the B.C. Legislative Assembly, on October 25, 2011, passed amendments to the "Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy Act," which became law on November 14th. Those amendments reaffirm a public body's protection of privacy obligations as described in an earlier post, including the requirement that personal information under SFU's custody or control be stored and accessed only in Canada. This despite the fact that during the public consultation phase various stakeholders asked the B.C. Government to change that very provision to make it more flexible. It decided not to do so. Therefore, for the foreseeable future, this is a matter that will continue to confront all public bodies in B.C. The CIO's message is a helpful step in raising awareness within the University community and starting a discussion about alternative strategies. Thank you, Jay.
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Joe
Joe December 10, 2011 8:56 AM
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Jay Black
Jay Black December 12, 2011 10:09 AM
While this looks like a good technical solution, there is no information I could find on the SugarSync web site to guarantee that your data is stored only in Canada, so this is no different than any other foreign cloud service.
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Lee Greenough
Lee Greenough January 27, 2012 1:14 PM
this might be of interest,
Google has a new unified privacy policy for all their services, set to go into use March 1 2012: http://www.google.ca/intl/en/policies/ and http://www.google.ca/intl/en/policies/privacy/preview/

A relevant quote: "Google processes personal information on our servers in many countries around the world. We may process your personal information on a server located outside the country where you live."
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Anonymous
Anonymous February 3, 2012 5:00 PM
What guarantee is there that email or files sent through SFU-approved services are only ever stored in Canada? I was under the impression that, for instance, email could potentially be routed through servers not in Canada (and thus copied by those servers)? For instance, if I send email from a laptop at a conference in the US using SFU Connect, how do you know that a copy is not saved locally?

Also, web search engines, like Google and Bing, save copies of web pages. Is it necessary to prevent SFU web pages from being indexed?
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Anonymous
Anonymous February 3, 2012 5:00 PM
What guarantee is there that email or files sent through SFU-approved services are only ever stored in Canada? I was under the impression that, for instance, email could potentially be routed through servers not in Canada (and thus copied by those servers)? For instance, if I send email from a laptop at a conference in the US using SFU Connect, how do you know that a copy is not saved locally?

Also, web search engines, like Google and Bing, save copies of web pages. Is it necessary to prevent SFU web pages from being indexed?
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Jay Black
Jay Black February 7, 2012 8:55 AM
If you're using SFU Connect from a browser on your laptop, anywhere in the world, all the communication happens directly over a secure (https), encrypted connection between the laptop and the server at SFU. I can't imagine that a court would find any instance of "storage" under these circumstances ...

There are many other ways of using sending and receiving email via SFU Connect, and the technical details are unfortunately relevant to the question of whether copies might be saved in some sense outside Canada. That's why the first option is preferred.

Web search engines only save copies of public information on web sites. If someone at SFU is disclosing personal information on a public web site, that's a different, and serious problem that SFU should address directly.
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Jane Pulkingham
Jane Pulkingham February 3, 2012 5:48 PM
When you advise to not synchronize devices (e.g., iphone) "through iCloud, now used by default by iTunes" I take it that synchronizing devices through iTunes, but not through iCloud, is fine? My understanding is that iCloud is only an option if your operating system is Lion, so those with older MAC OS should be fine to synchronize with iTunes because iCloud is not in operation.
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Anonymous
Anonymous February 7, 2012 8:58 AM
By "synchronizing with iTunes", I meant using the computer running iTunes to save backup and synchronization information, so that none of that "escaped" into the iCloud. That's the way iTunes has operated for a long time. I don't know how the different versions of iTunes on different Mac & PC platforms actually enable use of iCloud.
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