NOTE: Audio only

"We have to redesign our minds, but all over Europe, not only in Italy. And to really to build up new networks, new ways, new... To have the courage to understand achievement and not be afraid and defend, but be open. To say: okay I [will] try to understand and I [will] give a new answer to this and I personally do believe that this is possible. Also [to] give passion [when designing]. In some ways it is always difficult but life is difficult."