I totally agree that controlled situations are much safer. I've felt pretty safe on campus last fall all through exam time (walking by the no-masks-for-us Lacrosse team meeting excepted).
I've also noticed that more people seem to be wearing their masks properly, and I think those of us who have worked hard educating people on the importance of masking (with 0 help from SFU and negative help from the province) can take some credit for that.
:)
I've got to say though, whatever the risk was last fall it is today increased fifty-fold. (Everything else equal, like the situation, masking, etc). More if you haven't gotten your 3rd dose yet. Even if an average mask decreases the infectiousness of people around you by 95% - which is a made-up number but feels optimistic to me - that's only twenty-fold. The point is that a fully masked bus/classroom today plausibly offers higher infection risk than going to a Lacrosse team meeting did last fall!
That's what the case for waiting boils down to. All projections agree that by February, community infection levels will be an order of magnitude lower.
Fingers crossed!
Lucas
Transit, like corridors and classrooms on campus, is a situation with controlled behaviour, not an uncontrolled social situation. In my use of buses and skytrains recently, I’ve seen almost everyone wearing their masks properly and they’re not nearly as crowded as they used to be. I was worried about more crowded buses at the beginning of fall term when we went back to classrooms, but my students reported very good and safe-feeling experiences.
Nicky
To:On Jan 12, 2022, at 1:53 PM, Lyn Bartram <lyn@sfu.ca> wrote:While I appreciate that Dr. Bonnie states that structured settings do not show evidence of more transmission, I wonder where the source of her data are. If these data come from universities, we need to ask whether there are vaccine mandates in those environments. For example, BC is the only province where universities and colleges are PROHIBITED from requiring vaccines.
This means if a lot of the data around post-secondary learning environments and CoVid transmission comes from places where vaccines are required the results are much less applicable to our case.
I note that many Canadian universities are being much more cautious, choosing to wait out the Omicron spread until mid-late February. I, for one, am not comfortable coming back to campus at the end of January.
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“Be kind, be calm and stay safe” -Dr. Bonnie Henry, BC Provincial Health Officer
From: Nicky Didicher <didicher@sfu.ca>
Date: Wednesday, January 12, 2022 at 1:48 PM
To: "academic-discussion@sfu.ca" <academic-discussion@sfu.ca>
Cc: SFU Faculty Association <faculty_association@sfu.ca>
Subject: Re: VPA's decision
I, personally, was happy and relieved to have the VPA confirm that we're going back to in-person teaching.
In Dr. Henry's directive to universities and colleges I was especially struck by the following points:
• With every variant, including the Omicron variant, transmission has been observed to occur in households and unstructured social settings. There is no evidence that moving to online post-secondary instruction will decrease such interactions, noting that students would spend fewer hours in structured settings, which have a lower risk for transmission.
• Since structured educational settings do not amplify transmission, a move to online instruction is not an effective means of reducing COVID-19 among students, faculty, and staff, or in the wider community.
• The previous move to online post-secondary education in 2020 and 2021 was associated with significant negative consequences for post-secondary students, who reported significantly poorer and worsening mental health and greater negative economic impacts than other British Columbians.
• The recommendations of public health and Orders of the Provincial Health Officer are based on careful and ongoing assessment of the factors that increase risk and the interventions that are known to effectively reduce risk.
Nicky Didicher
English
From: Anthony Perl <aperl@sfu.ca>
Sent: January 12, 2022 12:31:36 PM
To: Craig Scratchley; James Fleming; academic-discussion@sfu.ca
Cc: SFU Faculty Association
Subject: Re: VPA's decision
Thanks, Craig, for clarifying the context.
Now, we can see that by channelling our Radical Campus spirit, SFU has created a major opportunity for public health researchers to identify the impacts and outcomes of in person learning versus remote learning during a pandemic surge.
UBC will remain the control case, while SFU faculty and students will become the treatment group in this population level experiment in learning how to live with Covid.
Anthony
On 2022-01-12 12:14 p.m., Craig Scratchley wrote:
I guess this is what James Fleming was referring to:
Craig
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If you are a manager of staff whose work is not computer-based, please print this email and display it in a common work area for them to review. To all our students, faculty and staff, we hope you had a restful holiday and a happy New Year. As we enter 2022, we know the Omicron […]
From: James Fleming <james_fleming@sfu.ca>
Sent: January 12, 2022 12:03:28 PM
To: academic-discussion@sfu.ca
Cc: SFU Faculty Association
Subject: VPA's decision
In light of the recent communiqué from SFUFA--and breaking news from UBC--I just want to say that I for one applaud SFU's decision to return to in-person teaching, as planned, on January 24th. Cheers! JD Fleming, English
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