San Francisco Photos 8 #

San Francisco Photos 8

California, USA

OCT 1935 to 1944 (Market St. Railway)

7 SEP 1941 to Present (Muni)

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ETI 5416 with poles up on Route 30 on Stockton near Market St. Photographer: Peter shalit. 9 FE 2002.

The same trolley poles down due to streetwork. Photographer: Peter shalit. 9 FE 2002.

ETI 5431 on Rte 24 on Divisadero St. at Geary St. Courtesy SFMuniHistory. Photo by Peter Ehrlich.

Twin Coach (Fageol) 586 on the 21 Hayes St. line during the Bart construction period underneath Market S. Photo by Phil Hom. 1973.

Route 8 returns to Market St. On Jan 16th 2002 the wires came down in the subway under Market St. between Church and VanNess Sts. Trolleybuses from route 7 were diverted to route 8 (streetcar line F) to help carry the passengers intgended for the subway. When the wires for the F line were installed, an extra wire for electric trolleybus operation was installed for emergencies such as this. Photo by Ralph Anastasio.

The interior shot of ETI 5421. Photo by Tim Gormley. FE 2002.

Left side view of a MH, rear left view of another, and the rear end of a White motor bus. Submitted by Peter Ehrlich, photographer unknown.

Rear shot of ETI 5421. "No rope reels (is that what they're called?). First time I've seen a trolley pole equipped vehicle without the reels on the back. Robert Parks wrote 'the grommets where the ropes attach have sharp edge all around, so that the ropes fray and if the poles are lost in certain ways, the ropes rip off and retreat into the back of the bus.' I assume the grommets are located right below the rear window where the ropes enter the body of the bus(?). Could or should Muni resolve the grommet problem by retrofitting the ETIs with rope reels?" Comments and photo by Tim Gormley.

Unidentifed Flyer E800 on Steuart St. following the NJ PCC #14 turning from the Ferry Building onto Steuart St. The trolleybus is either a 7 or a 21. Photo by Peter Ehrlich. MR/AP 2002.

Two Flyer E800s lined up at the terminus of route 1 California at Main and Howard Sts. Photo by Joe Thompson. AP 2000.

An unidentified ETI going though the hair-pin turn on route 33 outbound. Photo by Art Curtis. JUL 2010. Copyrighted.

A standard 23-degree crossing, about the lowest angle possible without complications. Going any lower would allow the Trolley Coach shoe to change direction -- a non-swivel shoe like on a TrolleyCar could negotiate a more shallow crossing. But the 23 degree restricts speed. A more shallow angle theoretically supports greater speed. Submitted by Jim Holland.

The mechanical crossing in the drawing is spring returned to the neutral position and is so named because simple action of the shoe passing thru aligns the runners for proper movement -- while the mechanical crossing has moving parts, they are not electrically operated. As a shoe enters from the upper left, the outer guide forces the first leaf to move. The two leaves are connected above with a rod that pivots in the center. Thus, as the first leaf moves from shoe contact, the second leaf moves the opposite direction thru the lever action. So the trolley shoe moves from upper left to lower right (OR lower left to upper right!) This allows for greater speed as well as preventing a change of direction. Submitted by Jim Holland.

ETI 5437 loading passengers on route 22 at Chestnut St. returning from the Marina Loop. Photo by R. C. DeArmond. 17 JN 2002.

Rear shot of ETI 5437 on Fillmore leaving Chestnut St. Photo by R. C. DeArmond. 17 JN 2002.

Unidentified ETI on Chestnut St. at Fillmore going outbound. Photo by R. C. DeArmond. 17 JN 2002.

Flyer E800 5230 westbound on Market St. at 4th St. Unidentified Flyer leading the diseasel bus. Photo by R. C. DeArmond. 17 JN 2002.

Twin Coach 611 at Presidio Garage after an accident. This trolley was probably not repaired. Photo by Andy Goddard. Early 1970s. From the collections of Andy Goddard and Wally Young.

Twin Coach 591 on route 21 Hayes. Photo by Andy Goddard. Early 1970s. From the collections of Andy Goddard and Wally Young.

Twin Coach 603 on route 41 Union. In these days route 41 ran daily, evenings and weekends. Photo by Andy Goddard. Early 1970s. From the collections of Andy Goddard and Wally Young.

Twin Coach 620 at Presidio Garage. Photo by Andy Goddard. Early 1970s. From the collections of Andy Goddard and Wally Young.

To the left Marmon Herington 711 is on its way to Mexico City. Photo by Steve Sloan. AUG 1977.

Three unidentified Marmon Herringtons on their way to Mexico City. Photo by Steve Sloan. AUG 1977.

TwinCoach 614 next to Edmonton Flyer 906 in a garage preserved at Illinois Railroad Museum. Photo by Mike Crofarad. Date unknown. From the collections of Andy Goddard and Wally Young. Courtesy Tom's North American Trolley Bus Pictures.

NFI E60 7051 in the red and gray scheme at Potrero Garage. Photo by Matt Lee. 10 MAY 2010.

NFI E60 7115 in new the red and gray scheme at Sutter and Stockton Sts on route 45. Photo by Matt Lee. 10 MAY 2010.

NFI E60 7055 at VanNess ST. and Union St. Photo by Matt Lee. 17 MAY 2010.

NFI E60 7055 at Steuart and Missions St. Photo by Matt Lee. 18 MAY 2010.

NFI E60 7034 at S. Van Ness and Mission Sts. Photo by Matt Lee. 20 MAY 2010.

ETI 5628 on route 3 followed by a trolley on route 4. Route 4 no longer exists. Details unknown.

A model of Twin Coach 570. It is on display at the Muni's General Office. They're on the 7th Floor in the Planning Department. Photographer and date unknown.

Flyer 5002 on route 47 in bound at 25th Potrero Sts. Photo by Cameraon Beach. 1973.

ETI 5421and a few other ETIs in the new paint scheme at the Potrero Garage. Photo by Matt Lee. 2010.

NFI 7031 in the landor paint scheme and an unidentified NFI trolley in the stealth paint scheme.The name 'stealth' is not the official name for the color scheme. It is driver's (and others) term refering to the fact that the buses with this scheme are hard to see in the fog. I don't know the offical name for the scheme. Most agree that the Stealth scheme is much better looking but the Landor scheme is more visible. Photo by Jeremiah Davis. 14 JUN 2011.